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Street Fighting and Martial Arts Training: Training to Go To Jail

11/19/2020

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Young men in Ireland engaged in a fight.
"In a street fight do this", "In a street fight, do that", "You should never do that in a street fight", "A person would never do this in a street fight", "This works in competition, but you never want to do it in a street fight". 

​Since I started martial arts, 39 years ago, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu almost 30 years ago, I have heard everyone from a white belt to a red belt talk about "street fighting" in one aspect or another. The reasons to use BJJ in a street fight tend to come from those who are jiujitsukas. The reasons not to use BJJ in a street fight tend to come from all those who are not. The reasons to use Tae Kwon Do in a street fight tend to come from the people who do that, and the reasons to not use it tend to come from those who don't. It's all seems to be rather subjective. My goal in this article is to try to clear up a very troublesome issue with both sides of this argument and attempt to make the argument have a more objective conclusion based on defined terms and real world data. The central theme that needs to be clarified by any martial system making a claim about it's effectiveness in a street fight is - What do you mean when you say "street fighting"?
What is your definition of a street fight, and is it in line with the person who is giving out all the (free?) advice as to how to behave in one? I think it's important that we first use our words clearly and purposefully to be explicit as to what we mean when we are talking about a street fight. Because, in terms of the tactics and strategies used it actually matters considerably that you are using the right tactics in the right situation.
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Two men fighting in Richmond, VA, USA.
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Two men fighting with many onlookers.
Most BJJ, MMA, Muay Thai and other traditional martial artists I've heard speak on the subject of "street fighting" tend to drift loosely around several possible scenarios of having to use force to defend oneself outside of the academy or competition venue. However, as they offer their advice on many possible scenarios, the tactics they speak of often tend to all coalesce around a common and dogmatic theme: "Only two combatants are engaged in empty handed combat with the intent of staying engaged until the one combatant has either fled, been rendered unconscious, a third party (referee/anyone) has intervened and determined a winner or foul play; or one combatant submits in one fashion or another to the other combatant and that submission is respectfully honored."
Of course, the martial artists I'm referring to don't ever seem to put their own arguments in such a succinct package themselves. In their arguments the logic is such that it is made to appear that the system they are training is not only necessary and sufficient for addressing all possible use of force scenarios that are likely to happen - but preferred. And, when pinned into a corner by logical argument that threatens their beliefs, they defer to what they claim to be infinitesimal odds and incredibly rare likelihoods on how any person would ever actually be put in to such violent predicaments in real life. To be fair, this convolution of logic isn't usually intentional. It seems to be a cognitive bias known as the Confirmation Bias and possibly a touch of the Self-Serving Bias. After all, the more of your time, your money and your life that you've sunk in to believing a certain philosophy, the less likely you will be to give it up or change it. Humans are both risk and loss averse. Changing a belief takes courage. The Ego is the gate keeper, and it requires great strength to open that gate, because, the Ego absolutely hates to lose.

Am I also
susceptible to a convolution of logic in my own right? Of course I am. However, I believe, that the argument I make yields to the side of caution. I acknowledge the realities of criminal assault and the requirements of real self-defense events based not only on my own personal experience - but that of others who have told their stories to me, that of what's known about by experts as to how criminal assaults transpire, and that which is published in the academic literature.  
 What is a Street Fight?
A street fight is a fight in public places. The combatants may or may not know each other. It may involve two or more people, as well as weapons, and there are no rules to a real street fight. In fact, it tends to be the observers of the fight who determine the rules for the combatants in many regards. For instance, a common street fight over trivial circumstances is typically broken up by a third party/the observers/crowd when one combatant gains a perceived unfair advantage over the other - as determined by the crowd. It should be noted that street fights are broken up by the crowd at different levels based on the locale. In the United States, most street fights are broken up once the fight falls to the ground. In Brazil, or amongst niche grappling cultures, a fight that falls to the ground is often allowed to proceed uninterrupted by onlookers unless some other social infraction should occur - biting, eye gouging, etc.

​Street fights can sometimes be considered to be mutual combat by the combatants themselves, but can just as equally be the result of one party defending themselves from the other party bullying them in some fashion.
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It is also important to note that a Criminal Assault IS NOT a street fight. However, what starts out as a street fight or can easily turn into a serious and violent criminal assault. More on Criminal Assault below.
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Two men fighting in the middle of the street.
The Key Component to All Street Fights
When many martial arts instructors speak of street fighting and self-defense, they do so interchangeably. This is an all too common and yet an incredibly dangerous misuse of terms. The key component to ALL street fights is that they are ALWAYS avoidable. In contrast, a true self-defense event where one must use force to defend themselves is UNAVOIDABLE by a reasonable person. ​
The Dangers of Street Fighting
One of the more common reasons that some are in jail and facing a manslaughter charge is because the person they knocked out in a street fight fell down, hit their head, had a brain bleed and died. It was totally unintentional, but it happened and the only living combatant of that fight is left to carry the full responsibility of it's consequences. It is very possible to die or become seriously injured, or disabled, in what most would consider to be a run of the mill street fight outside a bar on a weekend night. It's not worth it to let people in this state to sort it out on their own terms. Save that for when they're sober and can make better decisions for themselves. That said, it is not advisable to intervene or try to stop a street fight in progress from transpiring or happening. Many people who have tried to intervene in street fights have been seriously injured, knocked out and even killed trying to play the mediator to a such a volatile situation. 
How to Actually Prevail In a Street Fight
Rule #1: Don't get into street fights. Street fights can be avoided. And, don't waste your time or money attempting to learn or be instructed as how to do so. People who try to make money off of offering such advice as how to win street fights are charlatans and swindlers. Avoid them and you'll save lots of money, pain and time spent in places you'd rather not be.

That said, a person who has experience in fighting because of their job as a bouncer, security guard or police officer, may have real legitimate advice to offer for the situations they were put in. But, unless you're in one of their occupations and put in a similar situation, their advice for you as a standard civilian may have little to no practical use for you.
 
Having to Fight vs. Wanting to Fight
This is a tough one for those who are competitive and/or have training in the combat arts. It's a lesson that was first wonderfully illustrated to me by an amazing instructor - Chris Fry who runs MDTS Training. But, it's a lesson which, I've seen so many highly trained Jiu-Jitsukas and other martial artists fail so miserably at in real life. Sometimes, you just want to see what you're capable of. Sometimes you just want to unleash all your training on an adversary who seems to be so deserving of a thumping. But, there is a HUGE difference between HAVING to use physical force to DEFEND yourself, versus WANTING to use force against a "deserving" assailant. Worse yet is the possibility that you egg-on or entice the other party into a fight which you otherwise could've easily avoided and walked away from. Do yourself a favor and walk away from every one of these scenarios that you possibly can. Avoid them all because none of them matter. If you want to see how well your training has prepared you - GO COMPETE! That's what competitions are there for. Compete in tournaments, in boxing and muay thai smokers, in MMA matches and any number of other specialized events. It's all out there. Google it. Train for it. Compete in it - and stay out of prison/the morgue. 

If You Cannot Avoid The Street Fight - What Do You Do?
If you are unable to avoid being in a fight, as in - you are not able to leave without serious harm to yourself or another, it is likely you are being criminally assaulted and have legal justification to defend yourself with reasonable force. In some jurisdictions you must be able to explain how you attempted to avoid having to use such force. In other jurisdictions you do not. It is to your benefit to learn the laws of your jurisdiction. At ICBJJ we teach our students the law regarding self-defense and judicious use of force. Regardless of the specifics of your jurisdiction, the better you are able to articulate why you used force when you did, and why you used the level of force that you did, are critical elements of the legal use of a self-defense claim that 99.999% of all martial arts academies who claim to teach self-defense don't take into consideration. Let alone teach their students. At ICBJJ, we cover these aspects.
 Conclusion
Street fights are ultimately always avoidable. Therefore, they should never be used as an example of, evidence of, or validation of a martial concept that is not appropriately addressing the realities of a modern criminal assault - which is unavoidable.  Any martial arts or defensive tactics instructor that speaks of street fighting effectiveness or relevancy of their techniques, but which is not also addressing what is know about the modern criminal assault, is uninformed, uneducated on the topic, and should not be teaching techniques under the guise of them being effective for a modern self-defense scenario. 

To train under such ignorance is to set yourself up to either go to prison or to the morgue. It's possible to do better than this, and at ICBJJ we do it. In our weekly Modern Self-Defense class we teach every level and aspect of modern violent encounters. From avoidance to having to use force. We also teach the local laws and help people understand the use of force laws in Iowa.

If you want to learn self-defense both with and without weapons, please contact us. We will help you protect yourself in all of the modern and dangerous situations, but also we will help you learn how to protect your family and loved ones. Contact us today and we'll get you ready and prepared!

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4 Comments
Maya link
4/2/2021 04:50:18 am

Hello, nice post

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Fitness Fighters link
10/15/2021 01:02:57 am

Interesting piece about such a delicate discussion related to a street fight. We should avoid fighting on the streets but the way this article explains what to do when you don’t have any other choice is thought-provoking.

‘Wanting to fight vs having to fight’ caught my eye as it looks very simple concept but in practice, it’s not easy to understand. Once you are up against an angry man, you may get carried away by your emotions, consumed by the heat of the moment, and get caught in a fight that could have been avoided had you shown a little bit of patience.

Such writings should be shared with young trainees of self-defense so they understand and absorb this essential concept from the very beginning.

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5/26/2023 01:58:25 am

Thank you for sharing this article about street fighting and martial arts training. I enjoyed reading it. I'm looking forward to your next post.

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6/12/2024 03:31:29 am

You told very nicely about the street fighting and martial arts training. Thanks for your generous tips.

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